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Info-Hams Digest            Wed, 23 Mar 94       Volume 94 : Issue  322

Today's Topics:
                           2 line elements
                  ARLB027 Haller to head task force
                            Cellular Phone
                           FT5200 Questions
                       Grid Squares & Lat/Long
              Grounding and lightning protection--KE4ZV
                         HAM word origin!...
                                 info
                                  NL
                         QSL info for HS0ZAD
          RF and AF speech processors. Was: FT-990 vs TS-850
                          Swap Meet (2 msgs)
                     Telecom and Meteors (2 msgs)
                  Using a cell phone transmitter ??
                             Who Brian is
                         Yaesu ft530 question

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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:20:00 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!sgiblab!wrdis02.robins.af.mil!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!UUCP@network.
Subject: 2 line elements
To: [e-mail]

Hi I'm a newcommer to the radio. I passed 1A, 2, and 3A on March 19,1994.
I would like to receive info on receiving 2 Line satellites for the
Soviet and Oscar Satellites. Thanks Brian waiting for his call sign!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:44:53 -0700
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs![e-mail]
Subject: ARLB027 Haller to head task force
To: [e-mail]

SB QST @ ARL $ARLB027
ARLB027 Haller to head task force

ZCZC AG91
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 27  ARLB027

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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 20:30:52 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news.unb.ca!csd.unb.ca![e-mail]
Subject: Cellular Phone
To: [e-mail]

WANTED used cellular Motorola Flip-Phone.
e-mail: [e-mail]

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Date: 22 Mar 94 23:37:00 GMT
From: hotmomma!brent![e-mail]
Subject: FT5200 Questions
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Randy Hall) writes

>1. Without the separation kit for the front panel, does the panel just pop
>off for security concerns, or do you need a screwdriver to remove it from
>the front of the radio?
>2. With the separation kit, panel remoted, does the front panel just pop
>off from bracket?
The front panel pops off the radio and the remote bracket without
any tools. The cord for the remote bracket screws onto the front of
the radio. Screwdriver is required for that operation only.

>3. What does the bracket that holds the front panel consist of?  How
>much freedom of mounting and angle adjustments are there?
The bracket is hinged, and allows the panel to rotate up and down.

>4. Where does the external speaker plug into to, the radio or remoted panel?
There are 2 speaker jacks on the back of the radio. One for the
primary band, one for the secondary band.

-Steve N2WSA <[e-mail]>
---
. QMPro 1.51 . This information for entertainment purposes only

----
The Brentwood BBS!  12 Nodes  (914)-381-1600

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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 20:33:52 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com![e-mail]
Subject: Grid Squares & Lat/Long
To: [e-mail]

Jay Sissom ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello!

: I recently borrowed a GPS device to calculate my Latitude & Longitude.  I
: found a couple of basic programs on Compuserve to calculate my grid square
: from this info.  Either something is wrong with the program, or something is
: wrong with the ARRL map in one of their books.  Here is my lat/long:

: Lattitude:    39' 39.303 N
: Longatude: 89' 10.550 W

: When I feed these numbers into the programs, I get EM59JP.  When I look on the
: map, EM59 is in Illinois and I live in Indianapolis, IN.  Is the map wrong, or
: is the basic program wrong?

No, Inidiana was recently purchased by Illinois for future expansion. Your
program correctly shows the recent changes.

Jim, WA6SDM

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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:12:12 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!swrinde!sgiblab!cs.uoregon.edu!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz![e-mail]
Subject: Grounding and lightning protection--KE4ZV
To: [e-mail]

Re: lightening strikes to ground rods, etc.

Gotta be a little careful assuming things stay linear at power levels
like lightening can deliver. 4000 amps * 200 ohms is 800kV, and
that's got a pretty good probability of ionizing the surrounding
material, yielding a dynamic resistance that could be a small fraction
of an ohm (or even negative), disallowing such a high potential drop.

73, K7ITM
(Used to work in one group that generated kiloamp sparks with
nanosecond and sub-millimeter precision, and another that went
around dropping field mills through thunder storms.)

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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:19:09 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!concert!unccsun.uncc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: HAM word origin!...
To: [e-mail]

CIn article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus) writes:
C>
C>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
C>
C>  >
C>  >    COMPTON (Reuters) - Police psychologists today were extremely puzzled
C>  > as to why  a Compton man, identified as Jeffrey Angus, had stopped
C>  > northbound traffic on the Santa Ana freeway by running along side
C>  >    ...............................
C>  > Story compiled by Jeff NH6IL
C>
C>  If you're going to engage yourself in this nonsense, at least take the
C>  time to come up with something original.
C
CHa ha - I see you deleted what you wrote about me (something about a
C`deranged professor blowing up a restroom' - so who started this
C`nonsense', Angus? When are you going to learn that if you post
Csomething about me I'll post back?
C
CI've got to go find what you originally posted that prompted me to write
Cabove. What's that old expression? `You can dish it out but you can't
Ctake it'? When you finish, so will I.
C
C>  But thanks for playing. Even lame-flamers need some encouragement from
C>  time to time.
C
CYeah, your `body parts' newspaper article was rather lame.
C
C>  Nice try with the 435 inuendo. I even sent you e-mail about that. Do you
C>  think I would lie to you about where I operate? Ask Dana.
C
CBut you've got the .435 personality! Speaking of inuendos, do you actually
Cbelieve that I'd blow up a restroom with plastic explosives? You've been
Cbreathing too much of that Compton smog (oxygen starvation).
C
CMy offer still stands: Let's take this to email so the rest of the good folks
Con .misc don't get pissed. This has REALLY gotten boring and childish.
C
C73 Jeff#2 (The SLOW Learner),
CJeff#1 NH6IL

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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:13:00 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!sgiblab!wrdis02.robins.af.mil!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!UUCP@network.
Subject: info
To: [e-mail]

Help, I received my certificate on successful completion of examination
for technicianw/HF.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:23:00 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com!news.cerf.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte![e-mail]
Subject: NL
To: [e-mail]

Looking for info for receiving The Netherlands Radio via Shortwave.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:54:27 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!whirlwind!tornado.seas.ucla.edu![e-mail]
Subject: QSL info for HS0ZAD
To: [e-mail]



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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 14:57:54 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nwnexus!jhgrud!eskimo![e-mail]
Subject: RF and AF speech processors. Was: FT-990 vs TS-850
To: [e-mail]

<2ml9q1$[e-mail]> <2mn2rd$[e-mail]>
<cowart.764364068@neptune>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever

In article <cowart.764364068@neptune>,
Michael Cowart <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Ignacy Misztal) writes:
>
>>It seems that the SSB quality depends on 3 factors:
>>1. Passband characteristics of the AF chain (including the
microphone),
>>2. IMD of the PA,
>>3. Type of processing, audio or RF?
>
>You are forgetting probably the most important factor, the voice
characteristics
>of the operator.  I recently sold a radio to a friend of mine.  During
the
>five years I had it, I consistantly got unsolicited comments on how
GOOD
>my audio sounded.  My friend is always getting complaints on his.
>I have heard him on a TS520, TS430, and now the Yaesu FT980 (not 990)
>His voice sounds like, well like it is being compressed.
>I have a resonating, full "FM" sounding voice.  He doesn't.
>Voices are like faces, everyone would rather look at a pretty face
>than an ugly one (unfortunately, his face is prettier than mine hi hi),
>and when you hear a good-sounding voice, you ususally will compliment
it.
>
>I know the purist (real ones and those who think they are) will take
exception
>to this, but most commercially available radios have similar TX
charactersitics.
>Yes, RF processors are superior than most AF ones, but in the 32 years
I have
>been hamming, I have found that voice characteristics determine who
gets
>unsolicited compliments.
>
>my $.02 worth
>
>Mike WA5CMI
>
>Extra Class since 1973
>5-band WAS, WAZ, DXCC (303 cfmd)
>Ragchewer
>Electrical Engineer, CONVEX Computer Corp.
>The opinions are mine alone, not my employer's
>


Certainly true about the voice characteristics, but when a rig
changes locations and starts getting poor audio complaints,
one might want to be sure there is no "RF in the mike" syndrome
present.  Major RF levels will be obvious, but low levels
might not.  SSB is especially sneaky since the distortion
only occurs on voice peaks, not the whole signal.

73 es gl
Bill Turner, W7LZP
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:29:00 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!sgiblab!wrdis02.robins.af.mil!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!UUCP@network.
Subject: Swap Meet
To: [e-mail]

TO:rec.radio.amateurequipment

I'm looking for swap meets in California that have a lot of Ham Equipment.

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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Date: 23 Mar 1994 21:20:47 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!sookit![e-mail]
Subject: Swap Meet
To: [e-mail]

BRIAN FRAZIER ([e-mail]) wrote:
: TO:rec.radio.amateurequipment

: I'm looking for swap meets in California that have a lot of Ham Equipment.

: ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

california's pretty big, brian . . . you got any particular area you are
interested in?

regards, richard

[e-mail]
all disclaimers apply

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Date: 23 Mar 94 20:09:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!sgiblab!rpal.rockwell.com!headwall.Stanford.EDU!abercrombie.Stanford.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: Telecom and Meteors
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:

>If you use digital burst communications, and good FEC, you can take advantage
>of the constant supply of short pings available from micrometeoriods.

Actually, there's some question as to the utility of FEC for MBC systems.
Since trail dissipation is a rapid exponential process, signals tend to
fall below threshold, on average, in the middle of packets; the required
overhead to correct half a packet is quite large, and since one could
potentially use those overhead bits to send real information, you're much
better off with some sort of a selective retransmission system.

--
-=Paul Flaherty, PhD         |     "The Enemy of the Good is the Better."
->[e-mail] (N9FZX) |      -- Gen. William "Wild Bill" Donovan

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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:42:58 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org![e-mail]
Subject: Telecom and Meteors
To: [e-mail]

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Curt Fore) writes:
: >
: >    Help!! I'm Looking for info on using meteors to bounce signals for
: >telecommunication. I saw a show in January on it. I have to write a
: >paper on something in telecommunication and as you can see my writing sucks.
: >But I think if I can get some info about something my prof has not hear
: >of it will help. So is there anyone out there with info or know how I can get
: >some.

: We're talking about the constant rain of micrometeoroids here, not the
: big visible ones. Individual "pings" are short, but there's a constant
: source of them. Hams who work meteor scatter tend to wait for the big
: meteor storms and use the longer, and rarer, pings off the larger trails,
: but that's not necessary. Only if you use analog voice or hand keyed
: Morse are the longer pings needed. If you use digital burst communications,

Long bursts are also needed for AX.25 packet.  I don't believe amateurs
have actually developed an optimized data system to take advantage of
meteor scatter.   I'd estimate that there are approximately 0 data
links in the amateur service that rely on meteor scatter right now.
I suspect that amateurs are still busy working on other options that
seem offer more capability.

: and good FEC, you can take advantage of the constant supply of short pings
: available from micrometeoriods.

--
Zack Lau  KH6CP/1           2 way QRP WAS
                           8 States on 10 GHz
Internet: [e-mail]   10 grids on 2304 MHz

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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:53:35 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!garfield.csuohio.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Using a cell phone transmitter ??
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Edward Mantey) writes:
:
: Has anybody here experimented with using the transmitter section
: of a cell phone. Can the xmitter section be effectively isolated
: from the rest of the phone or is the typical cell unit highly
: integrated. I've never opened one up (yet :) so I'm interested
: in any comments, speculations, experiences etc.
:
So, what do you plan to do with just the transmitter?
Make an RF handwarmer?  :-)

--
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Michael Mayer, Senior Technical Support Engineer      Amateur Radio KB8RJO
Visual Numerics, Inc.  32915 Aurora Rd.  Suite 160, Solon OH  44139  USA
Email: [e-mail]   Human: 216-248-4900   Fax: [phone]
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Date: 23 Mar 94 23:17:03 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Who Brian is
To: [e-mail]




Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 06:32:55 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcomsv!skyld![e-mail]
Subject: Jeff Herman wins the Net Nazi award.
To: [e-mail]

In article <2mnc9q$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:


  >
  > Ironic that *I* should be saying this.
  >         - Brian

Then [e-mail] writes

  >Take a valium and chill out Brian. Ironic indeed. Why not do us all a
  >favor and cancel all the pissing, moaning and baseless whining over on
  >rec.radio.amateur.policy while you're at it.

  >Besides, who appointed you the moderator for the news group?

Now I say:

     Perhaps someone should explain to Jeff who Brian is, what Brian stands
     for, and why, if Brian decides it should be so, almost no one will be
     able to hear him.  I'd do it, but it might be more fun to watch Jeff
     squirm a little...


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     Alan Cook, N7CEU
     [e-mail]
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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 20:50:43 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!concert!unccsun.uncc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Yaesu ft530 question
To: [e-mail]

I'm new to ham radio and this news group, so bear with me if
this question has already been answered many times.

Question: When jumper 13 is removed, will the FT530 receive
cellular (800 MHz)?  Yes, I know this is or will soon be
illegal.

Thanks in advance.

Jerre M. Hill
UNC-Charlotte

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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:25:57 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <2ml9q1$[e-mail]>, <2mn2rd$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: RF and AF speech processors. Was: FT-990 vs TS-850

Ignacy Misztal ([e-mail]) wrote:
: It seems that the SSB quality depends on 3 factors:
: 1. Passband characteristics of the AF chain (including the microphone),
: 2. IMD of the PA,
: 3. Type of processing, audio or RF?

: I am wondering why the QST reviews do not mention the type of processing,
: which has a large effect on signal quality. Signals with audio processing
: have higher content of AF harmonics, and are subsequently less efficient

I don't understand why audio processing has to result in more audio
harmonics.  Aren't there digital signal processing algorithms that
could prevent this effect?  Even before DSP, didn't people use split
band audio processing to reduce the content of harmonics?

: (3db?) and more difficult to tune. All cheaper rigs such as IC 725-737,
: FT 747-757, TS 430-450 use AF processing. IC 751-, FT990-, TS 830-
: use RF processing. I am not sure about the rest.

--
Zack Lau  KH6CP/1           2 way QRP WAS
                           8 States on 10 GHz
Internet: [e-mail]   10 grids on 2304 MHz

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
SB QST ARL ARLB027
ARLB027 Haller to head task force

FCC Private Radio Bureau Chief Ralph Haller has been named to head a
Commission task force on personal communications services (PCS).

The Commission said that the task force would provide ''a focal point
for all of the PCS issues currently before'' it.  The task force
would work with all of the FCC's bureaus and offices that are
involved in PCS issues, and would be responsible ''for assuring
consistency between policies and rules for narrow-band and wide-band
PCS.''

FCC Chairman Reed Hundt said that ''I am confident that under the
leadership of Ralph Haller, the PCS task force will lead the
Commission in the timely development of a comprehensive regulatory
framework for PCS.''

Other members of the task force include Tom Stanley, Chief Engineer;
Robert Pepper, Chief, Office of Plans and Policy; Donald Gips,
Deputy Chief, Office of Plans and Policy; and Michael Katz, Chief
Economist.
NNNN
/EX

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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:28:56 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2ml9pa$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>ws
Reply-To : [e-mail]
Subject : Re: Sonobuoys

>Kenneth E. Harker ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>> we were to somehow activate the third, sealed buoy, and it's battery
>> still functioned, what sort of signal does it put out, and is there any
>> way we could monitor it?  Alternatively, does anyone know what sort of
>> radios these things have in them?  Are they useful for anything other
>> than sonobuoys?  What would they be worth?
>

Please be *extremely careful* with this device.  The main battery is
seawater activated, and there is a inflatable collar float that inflates
and an antenna that is extended when it enters the water (actually, when
two pins on the body of the sonobuoy are shorted).  You don't want to
be holding the device when this happens!

The signal is 1W, VHF-FM, transmit only.  Old ones had a single channel,
newer ones can select one of 99 channels (synthesized).

Be careful!  And don't transmit out of band for whatever services you
are licensed for.....

P.J. Rovero                   Internet: [e-mail]
Code OC/Rv                    Packet:   kk1d@k6ly
Naval Postgraduate School
Monterey, CA 93943

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